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@mauro @oblomov @anthropy

People seem to lament the Presto days and whilst I really loved Opera, it was all proprietary software.

Chromium is open source and maintained by Google devs. But - correct me if I am wrong - Gecko is open source and maintained by Mozilla devs. Both companies are making shitty decisions.

It just feels like a lose-lose to me but I can understand why a new browser (2015 is new, right?) would choose Chromium over Gecko.

@oblomov @mauro @anthropy

Chromium is open-source and there are tickets in the public bug tracker which Vivaldi staff are cc'd in on - so I would presume there is some collaboration happening.

Vivaldi *could* dedicate resources to either improving the existing code for Chromium or legally fork Chromium and develop their own version based on it.

Until then, Chromium is used by many other browsers that there's an industry-wide interest in keeping it up to date compared to Gecko.

@mauro @oblomov @anthropy Yes.

Yet weirdly, Vivaldi are way more likely to listen to customer feedback and product improvements than Mozilla are.

It's great that they both exist so people can choose which they prefer to use.

@oblomov @anthropy I used to work at Opera when it had its own rendering engine (and for a bit post-blink), so know a lot of the people making Vivaldi

Right now, I would much rather put my trust in the group of people that I know, making that product in Norway and Iceland , that keep making good decisions about their product, than in the Silicon Valley strangers at Mozilla the USA that keep making terrible decisions.