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  • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

    Thinking about VBScript.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VBScript

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    I don't know if modern Web developers are aware how much of a struggle it was to get to the HTML5 stack we use today. There was a loooooooooot of bullshit to wade through. VBScript, ActiveX, Java applets, browser plugins, Flash. It was a fight every step of the way.

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    • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

      I don't know if modern Web developers are aware how much of a struggle it was to get to the HTML5 stack we use today. There was a loooooooooot of bullshit to wade through. VBScript, ActiveX, Java applets, browser plugins, Flash. It was a fight every step of the way.

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      The Web Standards Project was instrumental in this work. Their efforts probably generated a trillion dollars in value for the planet and saved countless lives. Open standards fucking matter.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Standards_Project

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      • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

        I don't know if modern Web developers are aware how much of a struggle it was to get to the HTML5 stack we use today. There was a loooooooooot of bullshit to wade through. VBScript, ActiveX, Java applets, browser plugins, Flash. It was a fight every step of the way.

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        @evan layout made with tables...

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        • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

          I don't know if modern Web developers are aware how much of a struggle it was to get to the HTML5 stack we use today. There was a loooooooooot of bullshit to wade through. VBScript, ActiveX, Java applets, browser plugins, Flash. It was a fight every step of the way.

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          @evan I remember this one gaming site that uses a bunch of frames and a Java app in the top bar to control the whole rest of the frame.. and man.. getting that Java app to work and be signed and… >_<

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            @evan I remember this one gaming site that uses a bunch of frames and a Java app in the top bar to control the whole rest of the frame.. and man.. getting that Java app to work and be signed and… >_<

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            @scanner Oh, boy.

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            • BreakingNerdundefined BreakingNerd

              @evan layout made with tables...

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              @BreakingNerd I mean, that's a bad practice, sure, but it wasn't a commercial product by a single company foisted onto the Internet by gullible Web developers. Nobody had to download RealPlayer to get a table layout to work.

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              • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

                The Web Standards Project was instrumental in this work. Their efforts probably generated a trillion dollars in value for the planet and saved countless lives. Open standards fucking matter.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Standards_Project

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                I wonder if @davew ever talks about some of the grotesque syndication products like PointCast and Castanet from the late 90s when he's discussing the history of RSS.

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                • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

                  I wonder if @davew ever talks about some of the grotesque syndication products like PointCast and Castanet from the late 90s when he's discussing the history of RSS.

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                  @evan

                  https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ascripting.com+pointcast

                  https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ascripting.com+castanet

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                  • Dave Winer ☕️undefined Dave Winer ☕️

                    @evan

                    https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ascripting.com+pointcast

                    https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ascripting.com+castanet

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                    @davew TIL! Those are fascinating posts.

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                    • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

                      @davew TIL! Those are fascinating posts.

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                      @davew I mean, TIL about the relationship of RSS to Pointcast. I already knew that you can look things up using the Google search engine, even if I don't always practice it.

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                      • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

                        @davew I mean, TIL about the relationship of RSS to Pointcast. I already knew that you can look things up using the Google search engine, even if I don't always practice it.

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                        @evan

                        i was very impressed with pointcast.

                        that CNN on the Desktop piece ran in Wired.

                        and they quoted it everywhere.

                        it was a breakthrough. probably not the most elegant implementation, but wow what an idea.

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                        • Dave Winer ☕️undefined Dave Winer ☕️

                          @evan

                          i was very impressed with pointcast.

                          that CNN on the Desktop piece ran in Wired.

                          and they quoted it everywhere.

                          it was a breakthrough. probably not the most elegant implementation, but wow what an idea.

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                          @evan

                          btw i was ready to help you too. shortly after i moved to nyc and got settled in i was going to come up to montreal for a visit, but somehow right at that moment you and a bunch of other familiar people were meeting privately with someone from google. i had seen that movie before too in many instances of the tech industry.

                          i see the long journey you took from that, i think we might have gotten there quickly.

                          did you write the software in identi.ca?

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                          • Dave Winer ☕️undefined Dave Winer ☕️

                            @evan

                            btw i was ready to help you too. shortly after i moved to nyc and got settled in i was going to come up to montreal for a visit, but somehow right at that moment you and a bunch of other familiar people were meeting privately with someone from google. i had seen that movie before too in many instances of the tech industry.

                            i see the long journey you took from that, i think we might have gotten there quickly.

                            did you write the software in identi.ca?

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                            @evan

                            btw --

                            https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ascripting.com+identi.ca

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                            • Dave Winer ☕️undefined Dave Winer ☕️

                              @evan

                              btw --

                              https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ascripting.com+identi.ca

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                              @davew those ones I remember!

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                              • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

                                @davew those ones I remember!

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                                @evan

                                just responded to a comment from 17 years ago.

                                edwin went on to found feedly.

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                                • Dave Winer ☕️undefined Dave Winer ☕️

                                  @evan

                                  just responded to a comment from 17 years ago.

                                  edwin went on to found feedly.

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                                  @davew in wiki world we talk about the "WikiNow". This kind of timeless way that we can interact across days and decades. I love seeing it in blogs, too.

                                  http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/WikiNow

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