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  4. I wrote about Anthropic's $1.5 billion class action lawsuit settlement over pirated ebooks and why I think that, bizarrely, this may count as a WIN for Anthropic https://simonwillison.net/2025/Sep/6/anthropic-settlement/

I wrote about Anthropic's $1.5 billion class action lawsuit settlement over pirated ebooks and why I think that, bizarrely, this may count as a WIN for Anthropic https://simonwillison.net/2025/Sep/6/anthropic-settlement/

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    I wrote about Anthropic's $1.5 billion class action lawsuit settlement over pirated ebooks and why I think that, bizarrely, this may count as a WIN for Anthropic https://simonwillison.net/2025/Sep/6/anthropic-settlement/

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    • Simon Willisonundefined Simon Willison

      I wrote about Anthropic's $1.5 billion class action lawsuit settlement over pirated ebooks and why I think that, bizarrely, this may count as a WIN for Anthropic https://simonwillison.net/2025/Sep/6/anthropic-settlement/

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      @simon "As far as I can tell this case sets a precedent for Anthropic's more recent approach of buying millions of (mostly used) physical books and destructively scanning them for training as covered by "fair use". I'm not sure if other in-flight legal cases will find differently." why do this when the Internet Archive and Brewster are already doing it? Why not combine forces? I don't understand. That seems like a bad idea.

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        @simon "As far as I can tell this case sets a precedent for Anthropic's more recent approach of buying millions of (mostly used) physical books and destructively scanning them for training as covered by "fair use". I'm not sure if other in-flight legal cases will find differently." why do this when the Internet Archive and Brewster are already doing it? Why not combine forces? I don't understand. That seems like a bad idea.

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        @codinghorror because if you didn't obtain a physical copy of the book yourself it seems you can't get away with training on it

        Bizarre but that's how Anthropic seem to interpret it - they hired someone who had previously worked on Google book scanning for their own scanning project

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          @codinghorror because if you didn't obtain a physical copy of the book yourself it seems you can't get away with training on it

          Bizarre but that's how Anthropic seem to interpret it - they hired someone who had previously worked on Google book scanning for their own scanning project

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          @simon I don't understand. The archive won't allow access to the already-scanned books? Why are we duplicating work? This is a "licensing" thing where the dongle is a COPY OF THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL BOOK?!!?

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            @simon I don't understand. The archive won't allow access to the already-scanned books? Why are we duplicating work? This is a "licensing" thing where the dongle is a COPY OF THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL BOOK?!!?

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            @codinghorror @simon

            alumni of craziest beasts book scanners

            “Somewhere at Google there is a database containing 25 million books and nobody is allowed to read them.”

            https://www.edsurge.com/news/2017-08-10-what-happened-to-google-s-effort-to-scan-millions-of-university-library-books

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