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Something clicked for me yesterday.

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    Something clicked for me yesterday. I read about #RFKJr 's latest claim that #Tylenol causes #autism when used during #pregnancy , and I thought:

    "Hey, I have read something very similar in a German #folklore text!"

    And here you have it:

    "If a mother uses a spell in order to ease her birth, then the Evil Enemy tries to lure these children in particular. Thanks to this magical influence, such children - if female - are born with the drive to trude. But male children are driven to theft (the 'Bilwez Cut!')."

    "Truding" in this context means becoming a "night hag"-type spirit while sleeping who torments and squeezes other spirits (the "sleep paralysis" phenomenon) while the "Bilwez Cut" is the ability to magically cut down the ripe grain fields of others and steal the grain without spotting you. You can read the entire text at the link - though beware, it's full of ableist nonsense.

    But now I am intrigued - both in JFKJr's modern claims (and presumably his fellow conspiracy fantasists, although I haven't followed them too closely) and this bit of folklore from 19th century southeastern Bavaria, the basic message is:

    "Women must suffer through the full pain of childbirth, and if they try to alleviate this pain, their children will come out wrong somehow!"

    Both qualify as folklore, not facts - but I wonder how widespread this piece of folklore was and is, today and in past centuries, and in which countries and cultures. Does anyone have further examples?

    #ableism #patriarchy #misogyny #bullshit
    https://wiki.sunkencastles.com/wiki/Witches_and_Trudes

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    • Jürgen Hubertundefined Jürgen Hubert

      Something clicked for me yesterday. I read about #RFKJr 's latest claim that #Tylenol causes #autism when used during #pregnancy , and I thought:

      "Hey, I have read something very similar in a German #folklore text!"

      And here you have it:

      "If a mother uses a spell in order to ease her birth, then the Evil Enemy tries to lure these children in particular. Thanks to this magical influence, such children - if female - are born with the drive to trude. But male children are driven to theft (the 'Bilwez Cut!')."

      "Truding" in this context means becoming a "night hag"-type spirit while sleeping who torments and squeezes other spirits (the "sleep paralysis" phenomenon) while the "Bilwez Cut" is the ability to magically cut down the ripe grain fields of others and steal the grain without spotting you. You can read the entire text at the link - though beware, it's full of ableist nonsense.

      But now I am intrigued - both in JFKJr's modern claims (and presumably his fellow conspiracy fantasists, although I haven't followed them too closely) and this bit of folklore from 19th century southeastern Bavaria, the basic message is:

      "Women must suffer through the full pain of childbirth, and if they try to alleviate this pain, their children will come out wrong somehow!"

      Both qualify as folklore, not facts - but I wonder how widespread this piece of folklore was and is, today and in past centuries, and in which countries and cultures. Does anyone have further examples?

      #ableism #patriarchy #misogyny #bullshit
      https://wiki.sunkencastles.com/wiki/Witches_and_Trudes

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      @juergen_hubert

      Thank you so much for bringing this to the forefront!

      In the US at least, a lot of rightwing Christians say that the part in the Bible about bringing forth children in suffering means, anything that alleviates the suffering is not okay

      The suffering is penance for Eve tasting the fruit of the tree of knowledge. Everyone who gives birth has to pay for that long ago sin (and, by implication, for the sin of having sex, and potentially maybe enjoying it)

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      • Jürgen Hubertundefined Jürgen Hubert

        Something clicked for me yesterday. I read about #RFKJr 's latest claim that #Tylenol causes #autism when used during #pregnancy , and I thought:

        "Hey, I have read something very similar in a German #folklore text!"

        And here you have it:

        "If a mother uses a spell in order to ease her birth, then the Evil Enemy tries to lure these children in particular. Thanks to this magical influence, such children - if female - are born with the drive to trude. But male children are driven to theft (the 'Bilwez Cut!')."

        "Truding" in this context means becoming a "night hag"-type spirit while sleeping who torments and squeezes other spirits (the "sleep paralysis" phenomenon) while the "Bilwez Cut" is the ability to magically cut down the ripe grain fields of others and steal the grain without spotting you. You can read the entire text at the link - though beware, it's full of ableist nonsense.

        But now I am intrigued - both in JFKJr's modern claims (and presumably his fellow conspiracy fantasists, although I haven't followed them too closely) and this bit of folklore from 19th century southeastern Bavaria, the basic message is:

        "Women must suffer through the full pain of childbirth, and if they try to alleviate this pain, their children will come out wrong somehow!"

        Both qualify as folklore, not facts - but I wonder how widespread this piece of folklore was and is, today and in past centuries, and in which countries and cultures. Does anyone have further examples?

        #ableism #patriarchy #misogyny #bullshit
        https://wiki.sunkencastles.com/wiki/Witches_and_Trudes

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        @juergen_hubert

        Gods will.
        Since Eve lost his bet with Satan for him (cursed free will).
        He was so pissed off at her that he made all the women in perpetuity suffer in childbirth.

        It's in the "good book"

        "All merciful" god.

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