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Is Apple a good company?

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  • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

    Is Apple a good company?

    #EvanPoll #poll

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    @evan No, but of all the tech monopolies (or companies approximating them), they may be the least terrible.

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    • samir, lost and foundundefined samir, lost and found

      @evan No, but of all the tech monopolies (or companies approximating them), they may be the least terrible.

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      @samir I get 17% global smartphone market share, 9% global personal computer marketshare. I don't think that is even close to a monopoly. It's interesting that they give that vibe, though!

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      • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

        Is Apple a good company?

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        Interesting results. I'm going with yes, but. Thanks to everyone for your answers!

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        • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

          @samir I get 17% global smartphone market share, 9% global personal computer marketshare. I don't think that is even close to a monopoly. It's interesting that they give that vibe, though!

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          @evan How does it skew when you start looking at revenue and profit, though? How about amount spent on lobbying in rich countries? Influence in standards bodies such as the IETF, W3C, etc?

          I don’t think monopolies and duopolies can be defined purely in terms of consumer marketshare.

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          • samir, lost and foundundefined samir, lost and found

            @evan How does it skew when you start looking at revenue and profit, though? How about amount spent on lobbying in rich countries? Influence in standards bodies such as the IETF, W3C, etc?

            I don’t think monopolies and duopolies can be defined purely in terms of consumer marketshare.

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            @samir

            No, that's pretty much the dictionary definition of a monopoly.

            "A situation, by legal privilege or other agreement, in which solely one party (company, cartel etc.) exclusively provides a particular product or service, dominating that market and generally exerting powerful control over it."

            https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/monopoly

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            • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

              @samir

              No, that's pretty much the dictionary definition of a monopoly.

              "A situation, by legal privilege or other agreement, in which solely one party (company, cartel etc.) exclusively provides a particular product or service, dominating that market and generally exerting powerful control over it."

              https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/monopoly

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              @evan I understand that. It’s why I put in my caveat of “companies approximating them”.

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              • samir, lost and foundundefined samir, lost and found

                @evan I understand that. It’s why I put in my caveat of “companies approximating them”.

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                @evan I also believe dictionaries are descriptive, and English can change. 🙃

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                • samir, lost and foundundefined samir, lost and found

                  @evan I also believe dictionaries are descriptive, and English can change. 🙃

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                  @samir OK. Would it also make sense to consider why Apple seems like a monopoly? It's possibly because they've taken the high-profit luxury end of the phone and computer markets, so they are making tonnes of money in those spaces. Luxury goods can seem like they have an outsized presence in the market.

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                  • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

                    @samir OK. Would it also make sense to consider why Apple seems like a monopoly? It's possibly because they've taken the high-profit luxury end of the phone and computer markets, so they are making tonnes of money in those spaces. Luxury goods can seem like they have an outsized presence in the market.

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                    @evan I think there’s more to it. They have outsized influence, not just presence.

                    Perhaps another term is more useful, then. The UK Competition Act, for example, talks about a “dominant position” in a given market.

                    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/41/part/I/chapter/II

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                    • samir, lost and foundundefined samir, lost and found

                      @evan I think there’s more to it. They have outsized influence, not just presence.

                      Perhaps another term is more useful, then. The UK Competition Act, for example, talks about a “dominant position” in a given market.

                      https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/41/part/I/chapter/II

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                      @samir OK. Good luck.

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