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One thing I keep running into with any form of self-hosting:

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    One thing I keep running into with any form of self-hosting:
    STARTING it is every bit as easy as promotors of self-hosting claim it is. Yeah, spinning up a Wordpress instance is easy and rewarding, as is writing a bit of HTML by hand, or any other solution really.

    CONTINUING to do it, while maintaining and securing whatever solution you're using, is hard.

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      One thing I keep running into with any form of self-hosting:
      STARTING it is every bit as easy as promotors of self-hosting claim it is. Yeah, spinning up a Wordpress instance is easy and rewarding, as is writing a bit of HTML by hand, or any other solution really.

      CONTINUING to do it, while maintaining and securing whatever solution you're using, is hard.

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      @reinderdijkhuis I think writing HTML by hand is the easiest option by far. Fewest security holes. For something like a webcomic where there are a lot of similar pages, it does get incredibly tedious.

      WP is never easy, and always bloated ;D

      I've used Grawlix and a custom CMS for my webcomics, but for my next one I think I'm going to go for something entirely static, possibly hand-coded (unlike a massive existing archive like yours, a new webcomic allows for a comfy pace of adding pages).

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        @reinderdijkhuis I think writing HTML by hand is the easiest option by far. Fewest security holes. For something like a webcomic where there are a lot of similar pages, it does get incredibly tedious.

        WP is never easy, and always bloated ;D

        I've used Grawlix and a custom CMS for my webcomics, but for my next one I think I'm going to go for something entirely static, possibly hand-coded (unlike a massive existing archive like yours, a new webcomic allows for a comfy pace of adding pages).

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        @reinderdijkhuis I've been doing this so long, apparently, that I've gone through the "professional" options right back to the "amateur" ones because they just work better and are easier to maintain, even if they do require more manual work. For a personal site, I don't need to rush.

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          @reinderdijkhuis I've been doing this so long, apparently, that I've gone through the "professional" options right back to the "amateur" ones because they just work better and are easier to maintain, even if they do require more manual work. For a personal site, I don't need to rush.

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          @eishiya @reinderdijkhuis

          A solution that can work reasonably well as a compromise between completely hand-coding a website and a CSM like WordPress is static site generation. This gives pretty much the same security as a static site, but it reduces the strain of replicating all the boilerplate by hand.

          I'm not sure if there's SSGs specifically tuned for webcomics, though.

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            @reinderdijkhuis I've been doing this so long, apparently, that I've gone through the "professional" options right back to the "amateur" ones because they just work better and are easier to maintain, even if they do require more manual work. For a personal site, I don't need to rush.

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            @eishiya I'm kind of in the same place, at least for some things. I wouldn't want to hand-code a new site for Rogues of Clwyd-Rhan and started to get away from that by the time that reached 100 episodes (it's at over 1200 now); for something like that, I need automation and cross-referencing, and Wordpress* fits that need best.
            But for a new project, like a gag comic with a (honestly) short life expectancy, hand-coding is a better option.

            * with static exports, no live instance online.

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              @eishiya I'm kind of in the same place, at least for some things. I wouldn't want to hand-code a new site for Rogues of Clwyd-Rhan and started to get away from that by the time that reached 100 episodes (it's at over 1200 now); for something like that, I need automation and cross-referencing, and Wordpress* fits that need best.
              But for a new project, like a gag comic with a (honestly) short life expectancy, hand-coding is a better option.

              * with static exports, no live instance online.

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              @reinderdijkhuis @eishiya wait wat, WordPress has static export capabilities?

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                @reinderdijkhuis @eishiya wait wat, WordPress has static export capabilities?

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                @oblomov Not built-in, but you can get plugins.

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                  @oblomov Not built-in, but you can get plugins.

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                  @reinderdijkhuis oh nice.

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                    @reinderdijkhuis oh nice.

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                    @oblomov Pain in the ass to use on larger archives unless you pay for incremental exports, though.

                    Actually, that's the worst part of the Wordpress ecosystem: so many things are free-until-indispensible.

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