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I had an epiphany while walking with my daughter to the park this morning.

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  • sapiaintundefined sapiaint

    @elena no #LLM will ever be you, no. But different LLMs trained on different data and with different parameters could have quite different "personalities", some of which folks might find more complimentary with their own for the purposes of work assistance and whatnot. This is not meant to ignore the many problems with this technology. Just thought it was interesting, especially if there were, say, 10s of thousands of models to choose from.

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    @mlohbihler my POV was about personal essays - nobody could possibly replace me in that... but I hear many students use them for personal essays and bloggers use them for convenience. I would never. Of course there are tons of use cases...

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    • Elena Brescacinundefined Elena Brescacin

      @elena As a blind person, I often use AI to get help on picture descriptions, video descriptions, and sometimes they can give me a vague idea on how to follow-up a story. Sometimes I get even good ideas but they're just bulleted lists I will develop by myself. Or even helping me translating from Italian to English back and forth. But NOT to create entire contents for me! They can't. A set of data can't create a personality. Not even my sentient virus's. (1/2)

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      @talksina thank you for sharing this Elena. Indeed my take was about personal essays and how I find that they destroy any individuality - in both content and style. They're super cocky hallucinating machines

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      • Elena Rossini on GoToSocial ⁂undefined Elena Rossini on GoToSocial ⁂

        I had an epiphany while walking with my daughter to the park this morning.

        The number one reason why I would never resort to #AI / a #LLM to write something for me is that these models completely squash any individuality, the sum of all your life experiences and viewpoints. What makes you, *you*.

        What I find so dangerous is the homogenization of thinking that they bring about. A pastiche of vanilla thoughts, cobbled together at random.

        No LLM could possibly write for me... even if I used a prompt that asked it to write in my style, providing links to previous articles.

        My little one is only 4 but it breaks my heart that she's growing up in a world where these tools are totally normalized. How they're upending higher education and so many aspects of life.

        We didn't have a choice, the introduction of these tools arrived all of a sudden, without any guardrails in place. And now they're here.

        When the time comes, we'll have this talk. I find it essential.

        /end of rant - sigh times a million

        #NoAI #MediaEcology #DigitalLiteracy

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        @elena Absolutely! And not only that, I'm also very worried about the effects of using LLM in education in particular and in our brain function in general (adults and kids). I'm pretty sure it will make more difficult to "learn how to learn" and learn howto critically think.

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        • salvariundefined salvari

          @elena Absolutely! And not only that, I'm also very worried about the effects of using LLM in education in particular and in our brain function in general (adults and kids). I'm pretty sure it will make more difficult to "learn how to learn" and learn howto critically think.

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          @salvari indeed 🎯

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          • Elena Rossini on GoToSocial ⁂undefined Elena Rossini on GoToSocial ⁂

            I had an epiphany while walking with my daughter to the park this morning.

            The number one reason why I would never resort to #AI / a #LLM to write something for me is that these models completely squash any individuality, the sum of all your life experiences and viewpoints. What makes you, *you*.

            What I find so dangerous is the homogenization of thinking that they bring about. A pastiche of vanilla thoughts, cobbled together at random.

            No LLM could possibly write for me... even if I used a prompt that asked it to write in my style, providing links to previous articles.

            My little one is only 4 but it breaks my heart that she's growing up in a world where these tools are totally normalized. How they're upending higher education and so many aspects of life.

            We didn't have a choice, the introduction of these tools arrived all of a sudden, without any guardrails in place. And now they're here.

            When the time comes, we'll have this talk. I find it essential.

            /end of rant - sigh times a million

            #NoAI #MediaEcology #DigitalLiteracy

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            @elena don't despair, there's still hope. The number one choice of media of my 14 year old daughter is: books! Classic, analog, no screen books. After that it's music, by her favourite rock station and our huge collection of CDs. She uses her phone mainly for communication. So, we can help our children to find their way through the digital wild west. Analog and physical will never be obsolete, people are starting to learn that already. So, best of luck and patience for us all!

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            • Matthias Rochow / ooRayundefined Matthias Rochow / ooRay

              @elena don't despair, there's still hope. The number one choice of media of my 14 year old daughter is: books! Classic, analog, no screen books. After that it's music, by her favourite rock station and our huge collection of CDs. She uses her phone mainly for communication. So, we can help our children to find their way through the digital wild west. Analog and physical will never be obsolete, people are starting to learn that already. So, best of luck and patience for us all!

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              @ooRay_creation aw thank you for sharing this Matthias! Your reply makes me feel hopeful 🙏

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              • Elena Rossini on GoToSocial ⁂undefined Elena Rossini on GoToSocial ⁂

                I had an epiphany while walking with my daughter to the park this morning.

                The number one reason why I would never resort to #AI / a #LLM to write something for me is that these models completely squash any individuality, the sum of all your life experiences and viewpoints. What makes you, *you*.

                What I find so dangerous is the homogenization of thinking that they bring about. A pastiche of vanilla thoughts, cobbled together at random.

                No LLM could possibly write for me... even if I used a prompt that asked it to write in my style, providing links to previous articles.

                My little one is only 4 but it breaks my heart that she's growing up in a world where these tools are totally normalized. How they're upending higher education and so many aspects of life.

                We didn't have a choice, the introduction of these tools arrived all of a sudden, without any guardrails in place. And now they're here.

                When the time comes, we'll have this talk. I find it essential.

                /end of rant - sigh times a million

                #NoAI #MediaEcology #DigitalLiteracy

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                @elena I think it might be worth having a talk with her school.

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                • Elena Rossini on GoToSocial ⁂undefined Elena Rossini on GoToSocial ⁂

                  I had an epiphany while walking with my daughter to the park this morning.

                  The number one reason why I would never resort to #AI / a #LLM to write something for me is that these models completely squash any individuality, the sum of all your life experiences and viewpoints. What makes you, *you*.

                  What I find so dangerous is the homogenization of thinking that they bring about. A pastiche of vanilla thoughts, cobbled together at random.

                  No LLM could possibly write for me... even if I used a prompt that asked it to write in my style, providing links to previous articles.

                  My little one is only 4 but it breaks my heart that she's growing up in a world where these tools are totally normalized. How they're upending higher education and so many aspects of life.

                  We didn't have a choice, the introduction of these tools arrived all of a sudden, without any guardrails in place. And now they're here.

                  When the time comes, we'll have this talk. I find it essential.

                  /end of rant - sigh times a million

                  #NoAI #MediaEcology #DigitalLiteracy

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                  @elena please, take the following as statements from someone who has been working in tech/infosec for 30+ years and is sick of it.

                  Isn't that *exactly* the point? It's like the perfect drug: creates addiction, wiping you of *you*. Without AI, you won't be able to write an email, or read a paper. IT will do it for you, to "help". Managers don't read reports already: they look at powerpoints. And no text please, they don't have time for that.

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                  • Elena Rossini on GoToSocial ⁂undefined Elena Rossini on GoToSocial ⁂

                    I had an epiphany while walking with my daughter to the park this morning.

                    The number one reason why I would never resort to #AI / a #LLM to write something for me is that these models completely squash any individuality, the sum of all your life experiences and viewpoints. What makes you, *you*.

                    What I find so dangerous is the homogenization of thinking that they bring about. A pastiche of vanilla thoughts, cobbled together at random.

                    No LLM could possibly write for me... even if I used a prompt that asked it to write in my style, providing links to previous articles.

                    My little one is only 4 but it breaks my heart that she's growing up in a world where these tools are totally normalized. How they're upending higher education and so many aspects of life.

                    We didn't have a choice, the introduction of these tools arrived all of a sudden, without any guardrails in place. And now they're here.

                    When the time comes, we'll have this talk. I find it essential.

                    /end of rant - sigh times a million

                    #NoAI #MediaEcology #DigitalLiteracy

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                    @elena
                    ... and no discussion of LLMs should be without the reminder that they use world-eating amounts of energy and water.

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                    • 狐ヴィクシーundefined 狐ヴィクシー

                      @elena I think it might be worth having a talk with her school.

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                      @KitsuneVixi Absolutely! But in a few years because she’s still in kindergarten 😅

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                      • Andiiundefined Andii

                        @elena
                        ... and no discussion of LLMs should be without the reminder that they use world-eating amounts of energy and water.

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                        @Andii 🎯

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                        • Sebastian "En3pY" Zdrojewskiundefined Sebastian "En3pY" Zdrojewski

                          @elena please, take the following as statements from someone who has been working in tech/infosec for 30+ years and is sick of it.

                          Isn't that *exactly* the point? It's like the perfect drug: creates addiction, wiping you of *you*. Without AI, you won't be able to write an email, or read a paper. IT will do it for you, to "help". Managers don't read reports already: they look at powerpoints. And no text please, they don't have time for that.

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                          @en3py yes I think the point is to erode critical thinking so that citizens are more easily manipulated... looked at what happened in the U.S. One of the first things the new administration tried to do was dismantling / weakening the Department of Education

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                          • Elena Rossini on GoToSocial ⁂undefined Elena Rossini on GoToSocial ⁂

                            I had an epiphany while walking with my daughter to the park this morning.

                            The number one reason why I would never resort to #AI / a #LLM to write something for me is that these models completely squash any individuality, the sum of all your life experiences and viewpoints. What makes you, *you*.

                            What I find so dangerous is the homogenization of thinking that they bring about. A pastiche of vanilla thoughts, cobbled together at random.

                            No LLM could possibly write for me... even if I used a prompt that asked it to write in my style, providing links to previous articles.

                            My little one is only 4 but it breaks my heart that she's growing up in a world where these tools are totally normalized. How they're upending higher education and so many aspects of life.

                            We didn't have a choice, the introduction of these tools arrived all of a sudden, without any guardrails in place. And now they're here.

                            When the time comes, we'll have this talk. I find it essential.

                            /end of rant - sigh times a million

                            #NoAI #MediaEcology #DigitalLiteracy

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                            @elena Your main task is bringing your 4 year old up to have the same integrity as yourself. Sounds simple, right? We, your followers, believe you can do it. Yes, you can!

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                            • arosano 🇩🇰🇮🇱undefined arosano 🇩🇰🇮🇱

                              @elena Your main task is bringing your 4 year old up to have the same integrity as yourself. Sounds simple, right? We, your followers, believe you can do it. Yes, you can!

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                              @arosano aw thank you! for now she respects the rules we set and sticks to them...

                              one of my proudest little achievements is teaching her that Barbie dolls have impossible bodies that do not reflect reality... so she plays with different (more realistic, non-sexualized) dolls instead and rejects Barbies altogether.

                              hoping that I can have a positive impact on her tech use in the future.

                              her cousin got a Furby last Christmas and now my little one wants "a talking robot" - I told her I'll get her one that is more intelligent, so that she doesn't have to bend to the Furby rules and speak in a way that Furby understands. I find it creepy and non-educational TBH. Now researching robot making projects for my Raspberry Pi 5 😅​

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