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I saw something disturbing this morning.

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  • Ricardo Martín :bsdhead:undefined Ricardo Martín :bsdhead:

    @stefano

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    @ricardo yes. life can be hard, at times

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    • Joel Carnat ♑ 🤪undefined Joel Carnat ♑ 🤪

      @stefano I’ve heard that they also do this through phone call, using AI mimicking voices.

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      @joel

      I'd considered making a mini CLI-oriented podcast but this concern was part of why I have very little audio of my voice online.

      @stefano

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      • Tim Chaseundefined Tim Chase

        @joel

        I'd considered making a mini CLI-oriented podcast but this concern was part of why I have very little audio of my voice online.

        @stefano

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        @gumnos @stefano I don’t know how many samples would be required to initialize the "you" model. But given that a single photo can be used to achieve not that bad deepfake, this could be only a few minutes 😕

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        • Joel Carnat ♑ 🤪undefined Joel Carnat ♑ 🤪

          @gumnos @stefano I don’t know how many samples would be required to initialize the "you" model. But given that a single photo can be used to achieve not that bad deepfake, this could be only a few minutes 😕

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          @joel @gumnos Someone told me they use the spam calls (or the unwanted calls) to train models with your voice, if needed.

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          • Stefano Marinelliundefined Stefano Marinelli

            @joel @gumnos Someone told me they use the spam calls (or the unwanted calls) to train models with your voice, if needed.

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            @stefano This is true. Quite popular fraud scheme in my country (and actually post-Soviet space). So they collect enough samples of your voice to train AI, and then call your relatives asking to transfer money somewhere ASAP. That's one of the schemes.

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            • chesheerundefined chesheer

              @stefano This is true. Quite popular fraud scheme in my country (and actually post-Soviet space). So they collect enough samples of your voice to train AI, and then call your relatives asking to transfer money somewhere ASAP. That's one of the schemes.

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              @chesheer Scary!

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              • Stefano Marinelliundefined Stefano Marinelli

                I saw something disturbing this morning.
                One of my clients showed me an email. They use Gmail for their emails (on their own domain) and download them locally.
                The email officially came from their company president, giving the purchasing department orders to immediately pay an invoice of around €20,000 to a new supplier in the UK. It included all the details and had the invoice attached as a PDF.

                The worrying part is that the style and tone of the writing were exactly like their president's. However, the sender's address, while using the correct name, was a generic Gmail account. This immediately raised a red flag for the purchasing department, and they didn't fall for it. It was also easy for them to check because the president was in their office at that very moment.

                Looking at the sender's address, it would have been simple for anyone to figure out what was happening, but many people don't.
                The accuracy with which they (likely using an LLM) recreated the president's writing style is truly concerning.

                #Scam #Spam #FakeSender

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                @stefano As embarrassing as it may be, I once was scammed by someone pretending to be the owner of the company where I worked. I lost approximately $1,000

                However, I did learn my lesson and checking the email address of any suspicious email is the first thing I do now

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                • Gabe Saltarundefined Gabe Saltar

                  @stefano As embarrassing as it may be, I once was scammed by someone pretending to be the owner of the company where I worked. I lost approximately $1,000

                  However, I did learn my lesson and checking the email address of any suspicious email is the first thing I do now

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                  @gabe_saltar don't be embarrassed. In 2004 or 2005, I was scammed on ebay, too. I lost 1700 euros

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                  • Stefano Marinelliundefined Stefano Marinelli

                    @gabe_saltar don't be embarrassed. In 2004 or 2005, I was scammed on ebay, too. I lost 1700 euros

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                    @stefano Damn! That sucks!

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                    • Gabe Saltarundefined Gabe Saltar

                      @stefano Damn! That sucks!

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                      @gabe_saltar it does. I felt stupid. Then I was angry, because it wasn't easy to spot. They stole the login credentials of a legit shop and changed the IBAN. PayPal or other similar tools weren't available. It came out that more than 15 people were scammed, all around Europe. We got in touch with one another and we all went to the police but they couldn't find the money. There's been some money transfer from the original country (Germany) to another, non European country and then...everything lost.

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                      • Stefano Marinelliundefined Stefano Marinelli

                        @gabe_saltar it does. I felt stupid. Then I was angry, because it wasn't easy to spot. They stole the login credentials of a legit shop and changed the IBAN. PayPal or other similar tools weren't available. It came out that more than 15 people were scammed, all around Europe. We got in touch with one another and we all went to the police but they couldn't find the money. There's been some money transfer from the original country (Germany) to another, non European country and then...everything lost.

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                        @stefano WOW! In my case the person pretended to be my boss, and asked me to send him money in for apple gift cards... It sounded suspicious as hell, but I felt for it because I was new in the company. It was second week at the job and I didn't know anyone in the company well enough to make the correct judgement call.

                        I found the whole thing to be embarrassing because my major is in Cyber Security. To say I felt stupid, would be understatement of the year

                        😬

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                        • Gabe Saltarundefined Gabe Saltar

                          @stefano WOW! In my case the person pretended to be my boss, and asked me to send him money in for apple gift cards... It sounded suspicious as hell, but I felt for it because I was new in the company. It was second week at the job and I didn't know anyone in the company well enough to make the correct judgement call.

                          I found the whole thing to be embarrassing because my major is in Cyber Security. To say I felt stupid, would be understatement of the year

                          😬

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                          @gabe_saltar bad things can happen to all of us. But life goes on, and we lean the lesson 😉

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                          • Stefano Marinelliundefined Stefano Marinelli

                            @gabe_saltar bad things can happen to all of us. But life goes on, and we lean the lesson 😉

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                            @stefano so true ... Ma penso che in italiano voi dite... Mannaggia.... 🤣

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                            • Gabe Saltarundefined Gabe Saltar

                              @stefano so true ... Ma penso che in italiano voi dite... Mannaggia.... 🤣

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                              @gabe_saltar esatto! 🤣

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