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@mat “AP is best suited to talking to friends, while AT is best suited to talking to strangers”. That is great framing, I’m going to steal this! (with credit!)

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@jackwilliambell @thisismissem you are conflating two things. The existence of global feeds that aggregate world wide != a *single* global feed managed in a non-democratic manner.
But signing off from this thread now.

@jackwilliambell @thisismissem who said “trust”? I just want to have it. The more the better.

@jackwilliambell @thisismissem i for my part like the idea that when protests break out in Tahrir Square, I can subscribe to a global feed that gives me an idea of what is going on … certainly a much better idea than if I turn on the TV. I have that use case maybe once a year, but I’m glad it exists.

@damon I can imagine much worse things than blue states and red states defederating their social media platforms … but I get your point!

@thisismissem I would add that both protocols support use cases that the other protocol has a hard time addressing. ActivityPub, for example, is much better at point to point communication where no third party overhears what is happening. ATproto, for example, can be used to build “global trending” or a global index much more easily.
I would not be surprised if at the end of they, the open social web would simultaneously end up using both, in a complementary fashion.

I'm fascinated to (re-?)discover that the core #ActivityPub deliverable was the C2S API, not the S3S federation protocol.

Was the underlying assumption that servers were boring, one/few implementations could handle all cases, and innovation was going to be centered around clients?

Julian from NodeBB set up a new NodeBB instance for #ActivityPub technical discussions at https://activitypub.space in case you hadn't seen it.

It's a Forum, but also federated, you can interact with it from elsewhere.

I just followed @general from my Mastodon account, for example

The world we have -- in social media, and more broadly in tech -- vs the world we want.

Does this look about right?