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@evan @silverpill @mariusor

I mean AS/AP are quite unique in this regard, in the way things came together from the bottom upwards when it comes to formal open standards formation. Unique evolutionary process needed too.

@evan @silverpill @mariusor

Yea, those are things that can be said in hindsight. Maybe there was also the implicit expectation that the standardization process would continue in similar fashion as with other W3C recommendations. Not accounting for the organic growth in the grassroots developer ecosystem with its very particular social dynamics and how that would severely complicate things over time by accidental complexity popping up all over the place.

@evan @silverpill @mariusor

Sounds like a very good direction, and perhaps a ️ → direction there.

Every vote is a very opinionated one anyway, I guess, and depends on the expectations one has wrt to the protocol stack and the future of fediverse and social networking, and how it fulfills current (app) needs.

@evan

Marriage happiness levels as in..

- Making up, falling in love again
- From love to passion
- From passion to deep mutual affection
- Trending towards unhappiness

@silverpill @mariusor

I don't think you can say that. AS has more uses than with AP. I know of at least:

- Linked Data Event Streams
- DCAT-AP and DCAT-AP Feeds
- Linked Data Event Notifications

And as for #ActivityStreams relation to #ActivityPub I'd say - and it is the argument I make in the GH issue - that we have a vocabulary without good grammar and language rules. The AS social primitives are loose words, and you can construct any gibberish with them and try to make it popular slang.

How happy is the marriage between #ActivityPub and #ActivityStreams?

https://github.com/w3c/activitypub/issues/522

#poll #fediverse #socialweb

@julian @mro

> Perhaps it is a question of whether there is enough derived value from participating in SocialHub.

This is key imho. In a grassroots environment everyone is driven by self-interested motives that provide intrinsic motivation to participate and collaborate. This is just natural, yet insufficiently accounted for in our ecosystem-wide dev processes.

Also perception of value can be much improved e.g. in making clear *how* a FOSS project depends on its foundational technology base.

@attero @dysfun

No use tagging @mozilla
Looks like they abandoned the #fediverse in May 2023.