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  • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

    Identities, explained:

    - ActivityPub identities are https: URLs
    - Nobody uses them
    - We use username@domain Webfinger addresses instead
    - Bluesky identities are another kind of URI called a DID
    - Nobody uses those either
    - They use a domain name that looks like an https: URL instead

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    @evan slightly related, and I think you may have a FEP relating to it as well. But the fediverse could adopt aliasing domains to their account via DNS records as well. Create a TXT record for your domain that points to your mastodon user@home_instance. The lift will be getting all the different AP apps to implement it tho 🥲

    This would give users the ability to migrate identities* across* instances* as well.

    Edit: forgot a few words!

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    • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

      Identities, explained:

      - ActivityPub identities are https: URLs
      - Nobody uses them
      - We use username@domain Webfinger addresses instead
      - Bluesky identities are another kind of URI called a DID
      - Nobody uses those either
      - They use a domain name that looks like an https: URL instead

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      @evan Can you explain what you mean re Bluesky — I had to add my DID into my domain host when setting up my domain as URL. Or are you just saying nobody uses the DID as a public ID?

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      • Richard MacManusundefined Richard MacManus

        @evan Can you explain what you mean re Bluesky — I had to add my DID into my domain host when setting up my domain as URL. Or are you just saying nobody uses the DID as a public ID?

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        @ricmac yes, you're correct and I'm exaggerating for comic effect. I don't know enough about Bluesky to say if it's possible to use the DID for anything else (can you at-did someone...?).

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        • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

          @ricmac yes, you're correct and I'm exaggerating for comic effect. I don't know enough about Bluesky to say if it's possible to use the DID for anything else (can you at-did someone...?).

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          @evan I believe developers use it to authenticate users, etc, as it’s the canonical ID for users.

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          • Richard MacManusundefined Richard MacManus

            @evan I believe developers use it to authenticate users, etc, as it’s the canonical ID for users.

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            @ricmac yeah, we use ActivityPub actor IDs (the URLs) under the covers, too.

            I feel like we're kind of ruining the humour here, btw.

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            • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

              @ricmac yeah, we use ActivityPub actor IDs (the URLs) under the covers, too.

              I feel like we're kind of ruining the humour here, btw.

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              @evan Sorry, I actually wasn’t sure if you were being serious or not 🙂 I may have missed some of the context…

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              • Richard MacManusundefined Richard MacManus

                @evan Sorry, I actually wasn’t sure if you were being serious or not 🙂 I may have missed some of the context…

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                @ricmac There wasn't any. I was just pointing out that both stacks have a canonical ID, and a more usable ID, and it's funny that the canonical ID of one is the usable ID of the other.

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                • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

                  @ricmac There wasn't any. I was just pointing out that both stacks have a canonical ID, and a more usable ID, and it's funny that the canonical ID of one is the usable ID of the other.

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                  @evan Ahhh, ok. I think my brain didn’t make that connection because I always think of a URL as an address, whereas a DID is an identity. Or maybe I just need to be more alert to web witticisms!

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                  • Richard MacManusundefined Richard MacManus

                    @evan Ahhh, ok. I think my brain didn’t make that connection because I always think of a URL as an address, whereas a DID is an identity. Or maybe I just need to be more alert to web witticisms!

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                    @ricmac you know how when a post is in another language and there's a "translate" button? It'd be nice to have a "what is Evan talking about" button that linked to a ChatGPT explanation. (I think this is actually what some people use Grok for on X...?)

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                    • quaffundefined quaff

                      @evan slightly related, and I think you may have a FEP relating to it as well. But the fediverse could adopt aliasing domains to their account via DNS records as well. Create a TXT record for your domain that points to your mastodon user@home_instance. The lift will be getting all the different AP apps to implement it tho 🥲

                      This would give users the ability to migrate identities* across* instances* as well.

                      Edit: forgot a few words!

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                      @quaff Fediverse account servers could just support BYOD directly, too. Point yourdomain.example at socialnetwork.example, configure it in your user sessions, and then just use username@yourdomain.example as your handle.

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