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    Identities, explained:

    - ActivityPub identities are https: URLs
    - Nobody uses them
    - We use username@domain Webfinger addresses instead
    - Bluesky identities are another kind of URI called a DID
    - Nobody uses those either
    - They use a domain name that looks like an https: URL instead

    Dennis Nunesundefined quaffundefined Richard MacManusundefined 3 Risposte Ultima Risposta
    • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

      Identities, explained:

      - ActivityPub identities are https: URLs
      - Nobody uses them
      - We use username@domain Webfinger addresses instead
      - Bluesky identities are another kind of URI called a DID
      - Nobody uses those either
      - They use a domain name that looks like an https: URL instead

      Dennis Nunesundefined Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
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      @evan What do you think about Nostr that uses pub key and sec keys?

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      • Dennis Nunesundefined Dennis Nunes

        @evan What do you think about Nostr that uses pub key and sec keys?

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        @nunesdennis isn't there some kind of mechanism for providing readable aliases?

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        • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

          Identities, explained:

          - ActivityPub identities are https: URLs
          - Nobody uses them
          - We use username@domain Webfinger addresses instead
          - Bluesky identities are another kind of URI called a DID
          - Nobody uses those either
          - They use a domain name that looks like an https: URL instead

          quaffundefined Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
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          @evan slightly related, and I think you may have a FEP relating to it as well. But the fediverse could adopt aliasing domains to their account via DNS records as well. Create a TXT record for your domain that points to your mastodon user@home_instance. The lift will be getting all the different AP apps to implement it tho 🥲

          This would give users the ability to migrate identities* across* instances* as well.

          Edit: forgot a few words!

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          • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

            Identities, explained:

            - ActivityPub identities are https: URLs
            - Nobody uses them
            - We use username@domain Webfinger addresses instead
            - Bluesky identities are another kind of URI called a DID
            - Nobody uses those either
            - They use a domain name that looks like an https: URL instead

            Richard MacManusundefined Questo utente è esterno a questo forum
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            @evan Can you explain what you mean re Bluesky — I had to add my DID into my domain host when setting up my domain as URL. Or are you just saying nobody uses the DID as a public ID?

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            • Richard MacManusundefined Richard MacManus

              @evan Can you explain what you mean re Bluesky — I had to add my DID into my domain host when setting up my domain as URL. Or are you just saying nobody uses the DID as a public ID?

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              @ricmac yes, you're correct and I'm exaggerating for comic effect. I don't know enough about Bluesky to say if it's possible to use the DID for anything else (can you at-did someone...?).

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              • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

                @ricmac yes, you're correct and I'm exaggerating for comic effect. I don't know enough about Bluesky to say if it's possible to use the DID for anything else (can you at-did someone...?).

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                @evan I believe developers use it to authenticate users, etc, as it’s the canonical ID for users.

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                • Richard MacManusundefined Richard MacManus

                  @evan I believe developers use it to authenticate users, etc, as it’s the canonical ID for users.

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                  @ricmac yeah, we use ActivityPub actor IDs (the URLs) under the covers, too.

                  I feel like we're kind of ruining the humour here, btw.

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                  • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

                    @ricmac yeah, we use ActivityPub actor IDs (the URLs) under the covers, too.

                    I feel like we're kind of ruining the humour here, btw.

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                    @evan Sorry, I actually wasn’t sure if you were being serious or not 🙂 I may have missed some of the context…

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                    • Richard MacManusundefined Richard MacManus

                      @evan Sorry, I actually wasn’t sure if you were being serious or not 🙂 I may have missed some of the context…

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                      @ricmac There wasn't any. I was just pointing out that both stacks have a canonical ID, and a more usable ID, and it's funny that the canonical ID of one is the usable ID of the other.

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                      • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

                        @ricmac There wasn't any. I was just pointing out that both stacks have a canonical ID, and a more usable ID, and it's funny that the canonical ID of one is the usable ID of the other.

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                        @evan Ahhh, ok. I think my brain didn’t make that connection because I always think of a URL as an address, whereas a DID is an identity. Or maybe I just need to be more alert to web witticisms!

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                        • Richard MacManusundefined Richard MacManus

                          @evan Ahhh, ok. I think my brain didn’t make that connection because I always think of a URL as an address, whereas a DID is an identity. Or maybe I just need to be more alert to web witticisms!

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                          @ricmac you know how when a post is in another language and there's a "translate" button? It'd be nice to have a "what is Evan talking about" button that linked to a ChatGPT explanation. (I think this is actually what some people use Grok for on X...?)

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                          • quaffundefined quaff

                            @evan slightly related, and I think you may have a FEP relating to it as well. But the fediverse could adopt aliasing domains to their account via DNS records as well. Create a TXT record for your domain that points to your mastodon user@home_instance. The lift will be getting all the different AP apps to implement it tho 🥲

                            This would give users the ability to migrate identities* across* instances* as well.

                            Edit: forgot a few words!

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                            @quaff Fediverse account servers could just support BYOD directly, too. Point yourdomain.example at socialnetwork.example, configure it in your user sessions, and then just use username@yourdomain.example as your handle.

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