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  • TheWitnessundefined TheWitness

    @Ramonsalazar in Psychology we learned a tactic to make people do what u want, by providing them option A or option A.2, while both are A. It's ridiculous to mention Arabs rejecting to legalize the legitimacy of an illegitimate occupier! France nested for 132 years in Algeria and tried Tunisia, Morocco, Syria, & Lebanon;they ended up getting their butts kicked! Palestine'll be free, & there'll live Arabs (Muslims/Christians) and Israelite Jews. #Zionists'll be sent back from where they came from

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    @TheWitness The tactic you describe—offering two versions of the same choice—doesn’t apply here. #israels legitimacy isn’t a psychological trick; it’s grounded in history, international law, and moral necessity. The Jewish people’s connection to this land spans over 3,000 years, from the Kingdom of Israel to the Second Temple, long before modern states emerged. The Balfour Declaration, San Remo Conference, and UN Resolution 181 in 1947 affirmed this right, establishing Israel legally,

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    • Ramon Salazarundefined Ramon Salazar

      @TheWitness The tactic you describe—offering two versions of the same choice—doesn’t apply here. #israels legitimacy isn’t a psychological trick; it’s grounded in history, international law, and moral necessity. The Jewish people’s connection to this land spans over 3,000 years, from the Kingdom of Israel to the Second Temple, long before modern states emerged. The Balfour Declaration, San Remo Conference, and UN Resolution 181 in 1947 affirmed this right, establishing Israel legally,

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      @TheWitness not as an "occupier."
      Comparing #Israel to colonial France is a false equivalence. #France was a foreign power with no historical claim to #Algeria or the Levant. Jews, however, are indigenous to Judea and Samaria, with archaeological evidence and continuous presence despite exile. The 1948 war, launched by Arab states rejecting Israel’s existence, wasn’t about occupation—it was about survival against annihilation.

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      • Ramon Salazarundefined Ramon Salazar

        @TheWitness not as an "occupier."
        Comparing #Israel to colonial France is a false equivalence. #France was a foreign power with no historical claim to #Algeria or the Levant. Jews, however, are indigenous to Judea and Samaria, with archaeological evidence and continuous presence despite exile. The 1948 war, launched by Arab states rejecting Israel’s existence, wasn’t about occupation—it was about survival against annihilation.

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        #23

        @TheWitness #Israel won, fairly and defensively, and has since faced relentless attacks, from wars to terrorism.
        Your vision of a "#freePalestine" where Muslims, Christians, and Jews live together ignores the reality: Israel already has 20% Arab citizens with full rights, while #Hamas and#ThePalestinianAuthority have repeatedly rejected peace offers (Camp David 2000, Olmert 2008) that would’ve created a #PalestinianState

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        • Ramon Salazarundefined Ramon Salazar

          @TheWitness those who deny Israel’s right to exist. #Hamas & their supporters aren’t fighting for freedom; they’re pushing a radical Islamist agenda that suppresses their own people, look at Gaza’s governance or the PA’s corruption. DNA doesn’t lie, but neither does history: #Israel is here to stay, and no amount of revisionism or terror will change that.

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          #24

          @Ramonsalazar I believed in a 2 states solution, until I witnessed the #Genocide with my own eyes! I only believe now in a 1 state solution, a free state from the #ZioOccupation. All thanks to the #Israeli official rhetoric that was uttered clearly & fluently, now I believe there is no compromise. Indigenous people are welcome to stay Christians/Muslims/Jews. Foreign intruders Ashkenazi Europeans, Ethiopian Africans...it's time to pack up & go back to your countries. Make Palestine great again!

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          • TheWitnessundefined TheWitness

            @Ramonsalazar I believed in a 2 states solution, until I witnessed the #Genocide with my own eyes! I only believe now in a 1 state solution, a free state from the #ZioOccupation. All thanks to the #Israeli official rhetoric that was uttered clearly & fluently, now I believe there is no compromise. Indigenous people are welcome to stay Christians/Muslims/Jews. Foreign intruders Ashkenazi Europeans, Ethiopian Africans...it's time to pack up & go back to your countries. Make Palestine great again!

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            #25

            @TheWitness The charge of "genocide" doesn’t hold. Israel’s actions, particularly in conflicts like #Gaza, are defensive responses to relentless attacks—Hamas’s rockets, tunnels, and suicide bombings aim to destroy #Israel, not coexist. Genocide implies intent to exterminate a people; Israel’s precision strikes, with warnings to civilians, contrast sharply with Hamas’s indiscriminate attacks and use of human shields. The Palestinian population has grown steadily since 1948—hardly a hallmark of

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            • Ramon Salazarundefined Ramon Salazar

              @TheWitness In summary, your view simplifies a complex history and ignores the Jewish people’s right to self-determination in their ancestral homeland. Israel’s existence is grounded in international law, historical precedent, and the necessity of a refuge after centuries of persecution. A resolution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict requires mutual recognition and negotiation, not calls for one group to "go back" or inflammatory comparisons. Both peoples have legitimate claims, and

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              @Ramonsalazar @TheWitness The state of Israel is not an "ancestral homeland". The government and the army of this state are denying since 1948 the right to the palestinian people of living in their ancestral homeland. "Legitimate claims" cannot include ethnic supremacy with ethnic cleansing plans for the neighbours, war crimes, violation of human rights, colonial invasion with trespassing of the borders established by UN.

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              • Ramon Salazarundefined Ramon Salazar

                @TheWitness Your claims're rooted in misinformation and a skewed narrative that ignores history & facts. #Palestine as a sovereign state never existed; the land was part of the Ottoman Empire, then British Mandate, & historically tied to Jewish presence for millennia, as archaeological evidence & DNA studies confirm. The term "Palestinian" refers to Arabs who migrated to the region, largely from #Lebanon, #Egypt, #Jordan, and other neighboring areas,

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                @Ramonsalazar @TheWitness #Palestine as a sovereign state is a reality acknowledged by the 75% of nations in the UN general assembly. A full recognition is prevented only by the veto of a rogue state supporting war crimes against palestinians. You are either deeply biased or deeply ignorant my dear friend.

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                • Ramon Salazarundefined Ramon Salazar

                  @TheWitness The Arabs in the region, including in #Gaza & #theWestBank, have repeatedly rejected peace offers, look at Camp David 2000 or Olmert’s 2008 proposal, choosing violence through groups like #Hamas, a terrorist organization by objective standard, responsible for countless attacks on civilians.
                  As for your jab about Ivanka Trump, it’s a distraction. Conversion to #Judaism doesn’t grant land rights, but it highlights the inclusivity of Jewish identity, unlike the exclusionary rhetoric of

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                  #28

                  @Ramonsalazar @TheWitness palestinian and israeli citizens accepted the peace offer of the Oslo agreement that was destroyed because of the nationalists zionists extremists that killed Yitzhak Rabin. Groups like Hamas were financed thanks to the support received by Netanyahu and Smotrich that allowed Qatar money to reach them while blocking medicines for poor kids in gaza.

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                  • Ramon Salazarundefined Ramon Salazar

                    @TheWitness those who deny Israel’s right to exist. #Hamas & their supporters aren’t fighting for freedom; they’re pushing a radical Islamist agenda that suppresses their own people, look at Gaza’s governance or the PA’s corruption. DNA doesn’t lie, but neither does history: #Israel is here to stay, and no amount of revisionism or terror will change that.

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                    #29

                    @Ramonsalazar @TheWitness those who deny #Palestine's right to exist, like the wanted fugitive #Netanyahu and his supporters Smotrich and Ben-Gvir aren’t fighting for freedom; they’re pushing a radical zionist suprematist agenda that suppresses their own people speech freedom, look at the Knesset members harassed because they were against the plausible #Genocide established by the highest world court. #Palestine is here to stay, and no amount of colonialism or state terror will change that.

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                    • Ramon Salazarundefined Ramon Salazar

                      @TheWitness The charge of "genocide" doesn’t hold. Israel’s actions, particularly in conflicts like #Gaza, are defensive responses to relentless attacks—Hamas’s rockets, tunnels, and suicide bombings aim to destroy #Israel, not coexist. Genocide implies intent to exterminate a people; Israel’s precision strikes, with warnings to civilians, contrast sharply with Hamas’s indiscriminate attacks and use of human shields. The Palestinian population has grown steadily since 1948—hardly a hallmark of

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                      #30

                      @Ramonsalazar the charge of "Genocide" is supported by Holocaust Survivors, jewish organization, UN courts and reports, the international association of genocide scholars, and all the main organization defending human rigths.

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                      • Ramon Salazarundefined Ramon Salazar

                        @TheWitness not as an "occupier."
                        Comparing #Israel to colonial France is a false equivalence. #France was a foreign power with no historical claim to #Algeria or the Levant. Jews, however, are indigenous to Judea and Samaria, with archaeological evidence and continuous presence despite exile. The 1948 war, launched by Arab states rejecting Israel’s existence, wasn’t about occupation—it was about survival against annihilation.

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                        #31

                        @Ramonsalazar @TheWitness national borders are not established by you, the bible or some history books, but are defined and recognized by the United Nations, occupyng land outside these borders makes you a colonialst, an invader, an aggressor, a criminal.

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                        • Ramon Salazarundefined Ramon Salazar

                          @TheWitness #Israel won, fairly and defensively, and has since faced relentless attacks, from wars to terrorism.
                          Your vision of a "#freePalestine" where Muslims, Christians, and Jews live together ignores the reality: Israel already has 20% Arab citizens with full rights, while #Hamas and#ThePalestinianAuthority have repeatedly rejected peace offers (Camp David 2000, Olmert 2008) that would’ve created a #PalestinianState

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                          #32

                          @Ramonsalazar @TheWitness non-jews citizens of Israel don't enjoy full rights but are penalized by an apartheid systems certified by the United Nations. If you don't recognize the authority of United Nations, don't call yourself a democracy.

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                          • Carlo Gubitosa :nonviolenza:undefined Carlo Gubitosa :nonviolenza:

                            @Ramonsalazar @TheWitness The state of Israel is not an "ancestral homeland". The government and the army of this state are denying since 1948 the right to the palestinian people of living in their ancestral homeland. "Legitimate claims" cannot include ethnic supremacy with ethnic cleansing plans for the neighbours, war crimes, violation of human rights, colonial invasion with trespassing of the borders established by UN.

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                            #33

                            @gubi @Ramonsalazar Your claim that #Israel isn’t an “ancestral homeland” and is built on ethnic supremacy & war crimes is a distortion of history and facts. Israel's undeniably the Jewish ancestral homeland, with a 3,000-year connection—King David’s Jerusalem, the Temple Mount, Hebron’s tombs—backed by archaeology (e.g., Tel Dan Stele, 1208 BCE) and texts predating

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                            • Ramon Salazarundefined Ramon Salazar

                              @gubi @Ramonsalazar Your claim that #Israel isn’t an “ancestral homeland” and is built on ethnic supremacy & war crimes is a distortion of history and facts. Israel's undeniably the Jewish ancestral homeland, with a 3,000-year connection—King David’s Jerusalem, the Temple Mount, Hebron’s tombs—backed by archaeology (e.g., Tel Dan Stele, 1208 BCE) and texts predating

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                              #34

                              @gubi Arab presence by centuries. Palestinians, as a national identity, emerged in the 20th century, not as sole “ancestral” claimants. The UN’s 1947 Resolution 181 offered both Jews & Arabs states; Jews accepted, Arabs rejected it, launching a war to destroy #Israel. That’s not denial of rights, it’s self-defense against annihilation.

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                              • Ramon Salazarundefined Ramon Salazar

                                @gubi Arab presence by centuries. Palestinians, as a national identity, emerged in the 20th century, not as sole “ancestral” claimants. The UN’s 1947 Resolution 181 offered both Jews & Arabs states; Jews accepted, Arabs rejected it, launching a war to destroy #Israel. That’s not denial of rights, it’s self-defense against annihilation.

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                                #35

                                @gubi Your “ethnic cleansing” charge's baseless. Israel’s 20% Arab citizens—over 2 million—have full voting rights, representation, & freedoms unmatched in Arab states. Contrast that with the 800,000 Jews expelled from Arab countries post-1948 or the fact that no Jews can live safely in Gaza or PA territories. Ethnic supremacy? Hamas’s charter (1988) calls for killing Jews, & their October 7, 2023, massacre (1,200 civilians killed, 250+ kidnapped) shows their intent.

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                                • Ramon Salazarundefined Ramon Salazar

                                  @gubi Your “ethnic cleansing” charge's baseless. Israel’s 20% Arab citizens—over 2 million—have full voting rights, representation, & freedoms unmatched in Arab states. Contrast that with the 800,000 Jews expelled from Arab countries post-1948 or the fact that no Jews can live safely in Gaza or PA territories. Ethnic supremacy? Hamas’s charter (1988) calls for killing Jews, & their October 7, 2023, massacre (1,200 civilians killed, 250+ kidnapped) shows their intent.

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                                  #36

                                  @gubi Israel’s actions—targeting terrorists like Hamas, who use civilians as shields (UN reports, 2021)—are defensive, with warnings (leaflets, texts) to minimize harm. War crimes? Hamas’s rockets from schools and hospitals violate international law, not Israel’s precision strikes.

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                                  • Ramon Salazarundefined Ramon Salazar

                                    @gubi Israel’s actions—targeting terrorists like Hamas, who use civilians as shields (UN reports, 2021)—are defensive, with warnings (leaflets, texts) to minimize harm. War crimes? Hamas’s rockets from schools and hospitals violate international law, not Israel’s precision strikes.

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                                    #37

                                    @gubi The “colonial invasion” claim ignores that Jews aren’t foreign interlopers. Ashkenazi, Sephardi, and Ethiopian Jews share Levantine DNA (Behar 2010), returning after exile, not colonizing. The UN didn’t “establish borders” in 1948; it proposed a partition Arab states rejected. Israel’s borders were forged in defensive wars (1948, 1967) against aggressors. Human rights? Israel’s a democracy with an independent judiciary, while Hamas and the PA suppress dissent and glorify terror.

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                                    • Ramon Salazarundefined Ramon Salazar

                                      @gubi Israel’s actions—targeting terrorists like Hamas, who use civilians as shields (UN reports, 2021)—are defensive, with warnings (leaflets, texts) to minimize harm. War crimes? Hamas’s rockets from schools and hospitals violate international law, not Israel’s precision strikes.

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                                      #38

                                      @gubi You frame Palestinians as sole victims, but their leaders rejected peace deals (1947, 2000, 2008) for violence. Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005—result? 20,000+ rockets. Legitimate claims don’t include erasing a nation’s right to exist.

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                                      • Ramon Salazarundefined Ramon Salazar

                                        @gubi You frame Palestinians as sole victims, but their leaders rejected peace deals (1947, 2000, 2008) for violence. Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005—result? 20,000+ rockets. Legitimate claims don’t include erasing a nation’s right to exist.

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                                        #39

                                        @gubi Israel fights for survival, not supremacy, and thrives despite #Iran’s proxies and your accusations. Prove your “ethnic cleansing” with evidence, Am Yisrael Chai—Israel endures, rooted in history and justice. #Israel #Truth

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                                          @Ramonsalazar @TheWitness #Palestine as a sovereign state is a reality acknowledged by the 75% of nations in the UN general assembly. A full recognition is prevented only by the veto of a rogue state supporting war crimes against palestinians. You are either deeply biased or deeply ignorant my dear friend.

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                                          #40

                                          @gubi @TheWitness Your claim #Palestine is recognized by 75% of UN states ignores the truth: recognition doesn’t erase Israel’s legitimacy, rooted in 3,000 years of Jewish history and UN Resolution 181. I’m neither biased nor ignorant—Israel’s no rogue state. It defends against Hamas’s terror (Oct 7: 1,200 killed), not commits war crimes. Vetoes reflect strategic reality, not denial of justice. Palestine’s leaders rejected peace (1947, 2000, 2008). Facts over feelings. Am Yisrael Chai. #Israel

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